Beyond Order: 12 More Rules For Life
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Average rating3.7
While I really liked Jordan P. Peterson's 12 Laws book, this one felt really underwhelming and brought very little.
Most of the size of the book could be cut to go directly to the more interesting part. The first third of the book feels more like a defense against the controversy that appeared around Peterson than something of real value for the reader. However when you get past it, some of the later part are more interesting, calm and even open-minded and show a willingness to create bridges between people.
This book could have been quite shorter and would have been therefore more relevant in my opinion. I am however always surprised about how Peterson can be way more calm, structured and open in his writings than in most of his public talks.
Not very insightful, but there were fewer, or no weirdly political non sequiturs than in the last one. Less of a manifesto, more of a self help book, so if you're looking for that, knock yourself out.
2.5*
This is the last thing ever I read from Jordan Peterson. I still don't know what made me give him another chance in the first place.
While it has some good ideas, it also has lots of idiotic mumble jumble and his preaching tone is getting on your nerves from time to time.
This man has been through a lot of suffering, but his life lessons are not for me. The only good ones are about being a good person and finding gratefulness despite adversity.
Listening to this as an audiobook was an ABZURD idea! ABZOLUTELY ABZURD!
For real though. I enjoyed 12 Rules a fair bit, but all of Peterson's more irritating qualities are fully on display in this one - hyperbolic language (primordial! chaos! Hell!), Long tangents/explanations in the middle of a chapter that make me genuinely forget what the “rule” is for this chapter, and tons of bible analysis that is completely unnecessary and totally boring. That said, I listened to this on audio, and read 12 Rules with my eyes, which means I didn't have Peterson's ABZURD style being delivered in his own ABZURD voice. I think I probably would have enjoyed it more if I read it, I may do that at some point in the future. But as audio, I was constantly drawn in by how dramatic he was making whatever example and then the actual point would sail on past me.
Mostly, this book just felt unnecessary. I have no doubt it will help some people, but it felt half baked. I'm unsure if it's because Peterson kept almost dying last year and just wanted to put it out, or if it's because the entire thing is a cash grab, or some sort of combination of both.
The most amusing aspect of the entire thing is how much controversy there was over the publishing of an extraordinarily benign book.
His previous book and lectures talk about the same subject matter in an easier to follow manner.
JBP often draws analogs from biblical stories/myths, which I sometimes find far-fetched. The given examples from his own life and clinical practise resonate better with me.
I think he should seriously consider writing his books alongside a professional editor, he's all over the place
Este libro está escrito en un lenguaje un poco más complicado que su predecesor.
La narrativa siempre es fascinante y creo que se centra más en el respeto hacia las cosas que uno no entiende del todo, que uno debe de analizar lo que tiene enfrente y preguntarse por qué está ahí.
El primer libro me impacto más, pero concuerdo con la mayoría de su filosofía.
Está expresado de manera correcta y es interesante de descubrir, las nuevas ilustraciones son muy lindas y te deja con la inspiración de hacer las cosas excelentemente.
Además de que siempre te incita a ser responsable