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Executive Summary: I enjoyed this more on my reread than on my initial read, but I still found it weaker than the previous books, and the start of the slower pacing of the “middle books” that often prevent me from recommending this series to others.Audiobook: Micheal Kramer and Kate Reading once again do a fantastic job with the narration. They made listening to the slower parts of this book a lot more tolerable than reading them probably would have been.Full ReviewMy original rating of this book was 2 stars. I suspect it was maybe a 2.5 rounded down but it's hard to say at this point. The audio book is 41 hours long, and the prologue makes up over 3 hours of that. That's over 7% of the book. I think it helps to highlight some of the pacing issues I have with this book.We are introduced to entirely too many new characters and POVs for me to keep them all straight in my head. Finally Perrin shows up in the prologue after being absent in the last book, only to not show up again until the final third or so.That said, I was never bored by this one. I think part of that is because it was a reread so I was picking up stuff I missed the first time, and I'm more attached the the characters who are sometimes annoying here than I was on my original read.There is entirely too much setup and moving things around. I feel like this book could be about 25% shorter and not lose too much. This is epic fantasy, so of course there is going to be more detail and world building than your typical book, but I question what a lot of the early parts really add to the narrative.The last third of this book does help to make up for a lot though. The pacing gets much better, and the scale of plot developments is massive. These aren't tiny details lost to the history books. This is history in the making. The actions of the protagonists will be remembered for years to come. Assuming they can all survive the rise of the Dark One and his minions.I'm a huge wheel of fan time, but it has flaws. This book starts to really highlight some of my issues with the book, but it also has the elements that made me love it enough to do a reread. It's hard for me to say if you'll have the same feelings that I do. If you've loved the books so far, you're probably going to be good here. If you were so-so on them, this may be where things start to fall off for you. It's hard to justify telling someone to read 600 pages to “get to the good parts”.Overall a decent entry in the series, and definitely better than [b:Crossroads of Twilight 113435 Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time, #10) Robert Jordan https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1408325146s/113435.jpg 195579], but by far the weakest book of the series of the first six.
This book is not as exciting as the previous five. Granted, even in book 5, the pacing has slowed, but at least there was good action there. This book is very much focused on the more diplomatic stuffs. Lots of political intrigue and relationship development going on. Of the latter, perhaps too much. It's one thing to be able to read some funny or realistic interactions between characters that give them life and character. But it's a whole new level of low to go at it with gusto - there's so much trivial conversations and arguments in this book that it felt very much like filler. In fact, these padding bits actually outweigh the meat of the story, particularly the way too short ending chapters, where the really important stuff starts happening. While each of the main characters got some time in the spotlight, of particular interest are the fact that the Forsaken are getting some attention too. Nice to be able to look at things from their perspective. If only this book was as exciting as book 5 I would've given it a better rating. On the whole, it's a pretty bland read that, at times, goes at a crawl. However, Jordan's style is still here and you've enjoyed his detailed descriptions, you'll still find things to love here.
3.5/5
Epic title! Jordan's high fantasy series picks up right where book four ended, with even better action despite a less focused storyline. Whilst not as emotionally resonant as its predecessor, the novel grows the characters and lore in satisfying ways.
Read my full review on Life of Karrot.
Kijk nu, bijna hetzelfde als Fires of Heaven: het had veel korter gekund, en de herhaling is zo overdreven dat het soms lachwekkend wordt. Knippenplak uit een review online:
This is another metropolitan-city-phonebook-sized novel with a potentially interesting story that is bogged down by its excruciatingly slow pace, regular insertions of backstory, constant descriptions of the garb of every major and minor character (garb which keeps getting smoothed, straightened, or otherwise adjusted), and too many mentions of expanses of bosoms, spankings, sitting on knees, sniffing, snorting, and braid yanking. (I swear, if I have to read “good stout Two-Rivers woolens” one more time...)
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Black Tower
4.50/5.00
Let the Lord of Chaos Rule!
I am going to sound like a broken record here, when I say that this book is exactly like the last two books. Incredibly complex plotlines, outstanding worldbuilding, satisfying character moments, and shocking twists and turns, while we have to suffer through terribly written romance and romantic drama. Character developments improves significantly from the other books.
Glory to the Lord Dragon! Hail the Asha'man!
Kneel to the Lord Dragon or you will be Knelt!Story/Plot -> Egwene's plot is the most satisfying in this book. The story surged ahead with for Nyneave, Egwene and Elayne (finally!). Rand-Taim is fun, Rand-Min is horrible, Perrin-Faile is barely readable and so boring. Some amazing twists, Alanna!, Nicola jumping in! Elaida's plan was pretty impressive. I enjoyed the plot and loved the ending, but there was so many parts of the book [all the romance] where it was not even readable... I could have tolerated Rand-Min. Egwene-Gawyn was actually good! But I cannot take another page of Faile and Perrin. DELETE DELETEWorldbuilding -> Great worldbuilding as usual! Healing, Travelling, Ter'Angreal, Asha'Man, The WHEEL of TIME and the DARK ONE! My god!!! But this one does not make the full 10/10, since I think books 4 and 5 did much better. Character Development -> Egwene steals the show here. The use of her learning Aiel culture, and her moment of clarity to speak the truth, the way she wrenches control from the Salidar Aes Sedai! So satisfying. Finally an Egwene book. I loved Nyneave's changing character. Not so much anger, more frustration and embarrassment, and her PTSD from Moghedien! Rand is truly the Lord of Chaos, so well done. I loved the chaos of Lews Therin in his mind, the Chaos of his battle plans, his choas of trying to install Elayne in Andor, and just Chaos everywhere. Love it! New fav character -> Mazrim Taim (who is probably Demandred)As usual, there are a ton of pointless characters I will never remember. Literally why is Berelain in this book? Just to antagonize Faile ? FAILE I want to DELETE! Prose/Dialogue -> Credit to RJ for toning down the Men-Women commentary here in this book, but it is still there... Romance and associated plotlines are still so cringe, but let's not talk about this again. Some very impressive writing, especially with the ending. Emotional Impact -> I am so confused how to rate this. There were part of the book which loved so much and other parts I could never read again. But the ending was glorious and I love glorious endings. But it also took so long to get there.. so much nonsense in the second half!
glad I skipped almost every other page, after reading this and a summary, I apparently didn't miss much.
One important thing happens in 1000 pages, I do not know how I will survive the next few books
It's hard to recommend this fantasy series. At times the story paints men and women almost as if they are natural enemies. At other times, the story dips uncomfortably far into the romance category. On top of that confusion, we have a huge cast of characters to remember.
I was very happy to see bits of every main character mentioned in this book, though for some it took a long time to reach them. I do have to say the last hundred pages of this book were amazing! Jordan did a great job organizing the characters development, though Faile confuses me. I hope the questions she left me with are answered in the next book.
Robert Jordan has a talent for making his characters misunderstand one another. I haven't read an author before who has so accurately stuck with their characters' personalities like Jordan does. It makes sense that certain characters haven't learned about others actions or events in parts if the world. It skews their opinions and I love it!
I still can't stand the attitude of women in this book though. They walk around like the best people in the world and treat men like crap. These are some of the most manipulative women I have ever read of in a fantasy novel. The end of this book made me so happy to see some of them finally put in their place.
“We are always more afraid than we wish to be, but we can always be braver than we expect.”
Simply brilliant.
If you love epic fantasy, do yourself a favor and READ THIS SERIES!!! I don't think I've ever loved a series more. Jordan's insight into people, not only as a culture but down to the individual, is uncanny. You believe every single person is real and truly motivated by their own desires, hang-ups, morals, and fears. It's truly an intense ride. If you like short, fast-paced books, this definitely isn't for you. But if you enjoy having intricate pictures painted in your head so that everything plays out like an exceedingly well-orchestrated movie, then this is definitely the series for you!
Side note:
Watching the characters grow and mature is probably one of the best/worst things about this series. It's nice to see the character arcs, but you feel so bad for the pain and betrayal they have to go to get there. Rand's trust issues still concern me, and I think they're only going to get worse... not that many people are doing the right thing to help with that....
Throughout the whole book the pace felt a bit slow and dragging, even though a number of significant events happened. But the ending... I was going to take a break from WoT and catch up on some of my other readings, but there is little I can do now to stop myself from plunging into A Crown of Swords ))
I thought the ending of book one kicked off then that was topped by the end of book two and then that was topped by book three then books four and five but once again Robert Jordan has topped himself with a chaotic and intense battle scene I couldn't look away from if I tried.
THE WHEEL OF TIME
1) The Eye of the World ★★★★
2) The Great Hunt ★★★★★
3) The Dragon Reborn ★★★★★
4) The Shadow Rising ★★★★★
5) The Fires of Heaven ★★★★★
6) Lord of Chaos ★★★★★
7) A Crown of Swords ★★★★
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I'm a huge fan of the series so far and I was very excited to start this since everyone says it's the best of the bunch up to this point. I truly do not understand how because this was one of the slowest most boring books I've ever read with the exception of the prologue, epilogue, and last chapter. The book was also 500 pages too long. I gave it 2 stars instead of 1 because the last battle was dope but almost everything before was so boring to me. I did enjoy Perrin's chapters as well as Loial's parts. Other than that I was miserable getting through this. I'm really hoping the next book captures the charms of the other books before I get to the “slog” because I can't imagine any book slogging more than this.
Its at the end of book 6 that you truly realize the scope of WOT. Robert Jordan seems to live this world so well that he is able to churn out chapter upon chapter adding more detail to each of the cities we know and introducing us to new cities. He suddenly gives importance to fringe characters and consigns some key characters to the fringes. Just when you think there is a formula, the next book upends it and you get a completely fresh take. For eg. in this one all three Ta'veren are featured and Lan disappears. All in all some pretty dramatic changes have happened and you can see the kids you followed out of Two Rivers are growing fast and you grow with them. The Wheel turns and we turn the page to the next book. Let's ride!
Niby tak dużo się działo ale czuję, większość to był setup na końcówkę książki i na następne części. Bardzo dużo się było o interakcjach postaci które wcześniej spotkaliśmy oraz na ponowne spotkania. Perrin bardzo późno się pojawił, a szkoda bo go lubię. Poza tym to niesamowite jak bardzo Robert Jordan potrafi sprawić że znienawidzę postać, wobec której byłem wcześniej obojętny. Elayne jest nie do zniesienia. Nie rozumiem czemu tak bardzo stara się utrudniać życie Matowi. Poza tym pozostałe postacie kobiece nie są o wiele lepsze. Może to i plus bo autor potrafi wywołać we mnie emocje, ale ciężko się potem czyta ich perspektywy bo mam nadzieję że zdechną i wrócę do tych fajniejszych. Ta części jest pewnie o wiele lepsza po ponownym przeczytaniu.
Although I really enjoyed the end of this book, sadly it had to drop down to 3 stars from 4 because of the slow pace earlier in the book. I enjoy WOT for the journey, but there are point in the series that the pace really suffers.